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  • #971
    AdamH
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    Hey everyone,

    Got a new setup that is pretty badass. Running 5 channels of audio out of a server using 5 instances of StationPlaylist, 4 instances of Live, and 1 instance of BAE. The server is really fast — 3.33 Ghz Core i5-661, 4GB of RAM, Windows XP, etc.

    The box runs great. Only utilizing about 15% of the system resources at any given time.

    We use an ESI Gigaport HD to stream the audio out to a distribution matrix. It handles up to 8 channels of audio on a USB connection, but I suspect the drivers are causing an issue. When I open the settings up on BA Live, and then click I/O Config, the box freezes about 80% of the time. It requires a reboot to correct.

    When I uninstall the Gigaport drivers, I have no issues. I’ve tried both versions of their drivers, each time getting the same result. I know the simple answer is "use something else", but that defeats the purpose of what I’m trying to accomplish.

    Anybody have some insight on this? Thanks in advance!

    Adam

    #11514
    AdamH
    Member

    If anyone is interested, I discovered what was causing this…and it only took 10 days of ripping my own hair out!

    The Gigaport HD does not support KS, and if you try to initialize it as such, the driver locks the PC up. So it has to be fed with DirectSound instead. Now, everything is good. I’m thinking that if I comb through the forums enough, I would probably find somewhere that Leif or Jesse have said that not all sound cards support KS.

    Adam

    #11515
    JesseG
    Member

    I mastered Nicki Minaj’s debut a few weeks ago, I’m sure she probably has some good hookups for weaves. HOLLAAAA

    Yea, we have mentioned it before, but that probably should be noted somewhere in the config itself. Like a config quick help "popout" thingy. Good ideas being had, as usual, and Leif kicks ass by accepting most of them. 🙂 Just locking up the computer is pretty decent. In my experiences I’ve ended up with an Insta-BSOD. Unfortunately there’s no way that I know of to detect if a soundcard actually supports KS or not, without just trying it and seeing what happens. @_@ Gotta love Windows, but ehh, at least in Vista and 7 we don’t need Kernal Streaming anymore. The new Breakaway stuff will support Vista/7’s new audio engine fully. 8)

    #11516
    AdamH
    Member

    Vista…One of the most offensive words ever uttered. 😆

    #11517
    Dj Buik
    Member

    [quote author=”JesseG”]The new Breakaway stuff will support Vista/7’s new audio engine fully. 8)[/quote]

    Warning Offtopic:

    When will the new Breakaway product versions hit the Internet?

    #11518
    JesseG
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    [quote author=”Dj Buik”]When will the new Breakaway product versions hit the Internet?[/quote]
    I have no dates to give yet. In all probability, it won’t be announced. Quality is infinitely more important than deadlines.

    #11519
    Anonymous
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    Hello forum members
    This being my first post and a call for help as well. Been using both Breakaway Live 0.90.96 and BBP Asio0.90.95 for a while now. I am using the Realtek 1200 ALC chip on my Asus MoBo. For all audio stream routing purpose I use VAC in conjunction with the ASIO wrapper – ASIO4all with a latency of 64 samples.
    When I play a track (44.1 Khz,16bit) from say Winamp(output to ASIO->Virtual Cable1:Out) and feed this to Breakaway Live (ASIO->VirtualCable1:In), there are clicks and pops heard for the first 3-4 mins or so, and then eventually stops and plays fine. Changing any parameter like latencies, buffer, disabling WaveRT in ASIO seems to have no effect. It probably could be a case of ‘Clock Skew’. Surprisingly, this doesnot happen if I use BBP ASIO either for sampling rates of 48KHz or 192 Khz (as long as I’m routing the FM Output to Realtek chip,Studio Ouput generates strange tones at latencies below 192 samples), or for that matter an audio editor like Adobe Audition or Sony SoundForge. In any case 64 samples latencies works fine without any skips or buffer under-run.
    As a workaround I tried to installed another instance of Virtual Cable. Routed the Output of Breakaway Live to Virtual Cable2. And using AudioRepeater supplied with VAC (in KernelStreaming mode) I routed the VAC 2 to Realtek. Not only the perceptable quality degraded, but now Breakaway Live was skipping samples and causing brief bursts of silence.
    I’m really keen to purchase Breakaway Live which I largely use for transcoding processed tracks. However this glitch has been holding back my decision. Another thing, is there any way for performing automation for encoding tracks in mass, rather than playing them in realtime.

    Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    Soumya

    #11520
    michi95
    Member

    [quote author=”Soumya”]Another thing, is there any way for performing automation for encoding tracks in mass, rather than playing them in realtime.[/quote]No way !
    This would be another product (Breakaway Batch – but this is Breakaway Live = realtime).
    You are not the first one with this wish of batch transcoding processing.
    Let’s wait for the next V1 release, maybe we will get something like this fictive Breakaway Batch.
    In other discussions Leif has said that he thinks about this request, but no definitive yes or no when or if at all this will be available.

    Batch processing is something Breakaway does not support (maybe Leif has his own private tool , but nothing for the public).
    So you have to think about alternative Winamp DSPs for this batch purpose.
    You won’t have your favourite Breakaway sound, but maybe you can find something else (a DSP) that comes close.
    The whole live is a compromise.
    I won’t go in details here about alternative DSPs, because this is the Breakaway product forum.
    Though realtime is slow when you are used to work with batch processing, you have to change your perspective.
    You can transcode music tracks with a running time of more than 16 hours every day (while you sleep and while you work) in realtime !

    #11521
    Anonymous
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    [quote author=”michi95″]Though realtime is slow when you are used to work with batch processing, you have to change your perspective.
    You can transcode music tracks with a running time of more than 16 hours every day (while you sleep and while you work) in realtime ![/quote]

    Well leaving the DSP running when I am not around or am sleeping would not quite serve my purpose as I won’t have 100 five minute discrete tracks rather a single gapless track, much like BBC Radio1 Essential Mix streamcast 😆

    Nonetheless you have aroused my interest in this forum in expectation of the hypothetical ‘Breakaway Batch’. Good to know there have been folks who have expressed their desire for the same. I’d rather play the waiting game for now.

    #11522
    michi95
    Member

    [quote author=”Soumya”]Well leaving the DSP running when I am not around or am sleeping would not quite serve my purpose as I won’t have 100 five minute discrete tracks rather a single gapless track[/quote]This is no problem.
    You need a cue sheet to automatically cut the resulting big file (for MP3 you can use mp3directcut) in small pieces.
    I have just found a free tool that can convert playlists (.m3u) to cue sheets (and vice versa):
    MusicList (or Music Lister or Music List Converter or Music List Manager – obvious the author is not sure what the correct name is of his own program !?)
    http://www.audiography.com.au/Software/Downloads.htm

    So the only thing you have to do manually is to cut the exact starting and the exact end point of this big file with mp3directcut (for other formats you need other cutting tools of course) to match the exact original playtime (duration called in foobar2000) of the whole transcoded playlist !

    [quote author=”mp3directcut manual”]When loading a cue sheet the program reads titles and artist names and shows them in the graph area. If you split a file by using a Cue sheet you can create filenames with titles and ID3v1.1 tags for each file.[/quote]
    Besides mp3directcut there are some other free tools to cut big files into small pieces based on cue sheet information.

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