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Hello All
I am a new user, getting on in years and not very technically minded, looking for some help to configure Breakaway Live. I originally downloaded Breakaway and could not believe how much better my backing tracks, [some bought from iTunes, some produced myself from midifiles] sounded-absolutely brilliant. I then realised, having read through all the posts on the forum, that to record the modified sound from Breakaway, I would need Breakaway Live which I have now downloaded. I am using Vista 32 with Realtek HD sound chip. I have a Roland Sonic Cell external sound card, connected to the computer via USB, using Sonar for sequencing. My tracks are exported from Sonar to my hard drive as stereo WAV files. Tracks downloaded from iTunes are also converted to WAV files. Ideally, I would like to have the sound from the Sonic Cell processed by Breakaway Live as it is being recorded into Sonar. Is this possible, and if so, could someone kindly give me simple step by step instructions on how to achieve it. If not, then an idiots guide to getting the processed sound onto a CD or memory stick would be very much appreciated.
Thanks and regards.
Neil
PS. Breakaway as a VST Plugin would be brill!!!![quote author=”Ubique”]….using Sonar for sequencing……….I would like to have the sound from the Sonic Cell processed by Breakaway Live as it is being recorded into Sonar…[/quote]So, I guess you are using an ASIO driver for the Sonic Cell.
Without an ASIO driver the latency (the delay) would be too high (monitoring the audio signal thru Sonar) for MIDI sequencing.Adding Breakaway Live as an extra processing while sequencing/recording would add also extra latency.
So, you can go into the Breakaway Live settings -> I/O Configuration and try to enable ASIO for your Sonic Cell.
But I think the overall latency would be too high.
Another problem:
For recording/sequencing and its step by step logic the Breakaway processing does not make sense, because it is meant as a final processing for a complex mix.You can try to use it for a single instrument track, but I would recommend to use Breakaway Live only as final (mastering) processing for your written WAV (post Sonar):
viewtopic.php?p=7953#p7953
Keep in mind that in unregistered trial mode Breakaway Live periodically plays a promo jingle (approx. every 30 minutes) ![quote author=”Ubique”]PS. Breakaway as a VST Plugin would be brill!!!![/quote]This won’t happen (Leif has so much other things to do).
So maybe a good alternative for your recording/sequencing sessions to spice up a single instrument or voice track inside Sonar is this freeware VST-plugin (and Winamp DSP too):
YouWaShock
http://sites.google.com/site/youwashockvst/
It is very simple to use, but is based on the high quality multiband mastering tool
Image Line Maximus VST-plugin:
http://www.image-line.com/documents/maximus.html[quote author=”michi95″]
YouWaShock
http://sites.google.com/site/youwashockvst/
It is very simple to use, but is based on the high quality multiband mastering tool
Image Line Maximus VST-plugin:
http://www.image-line.com/documents/maximus.html[/quote]Actually… YouWaShock literally has Maximus contained within it. It was also created as A JOKE by a perfect english speaking mastering engineer (that I won’t name) to make fun of automatic "soundergooderizers"… and made to sound bad on purpose.
I’m not sure I would ever recommend it or Maximus to anyone for production because while it’s a multiband, it’s also a brickwall limiter. 😉
If you want a decent multiband compressor for free, check out:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1360.htmland a consolation prize, in case you don’t enjoy the sound of that
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2993.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2254.htmlGads better for general production use than anything that’s going to limit or clip the peaks… on any given track or the master, you don’t wanna peak limit before it hits any broadcast audio processing. You will have better results by just mixing properly. Use multiband compression for where it can do what it is supposed to do, even out the spectrum based on the program, without limiting transients.
[quote author=”Ubique”]I am a new user, getting on in years and not very technically minded ….downloaded Breakaway and could not believe how much better my backing tracks, sounded-absolutely brilliant.[/quote]People have different needs.
And if Breakaway is perfect for Ubique’s needs to enhance his backing tracks, then YouWaShock has enough quality for him too.Obvious he does not want to win an award for 21th century audio engineering.
So, I don’t believe that a not very technically minded person will try to learn how to tweak detailed settings of a multiband compressor.
(this is Sonitus Multiband included in Sonar ❗ )Let’s wait what Ubique will say !?
[quote author=”JesseG”]…you don’t wanna peak limit before it hits any broadcast audio processing. You will have better results by just mixing properly.[/quote]That would be a perfect world. 🙂
But we do not live in a perfect world. 😥[quote author=”michi95″]That would be a perfect world. 🙂
But we do not live in a perfect world. 😥[/quote]
Heh, this world has a looooong way to go past audio production methodology to become perfect. It’s barely a spec of dust on a beach.But I know what you’re saying. And at least for me, and anyone I can give advice to, I say that it’s LESS effort to do it right, with a very very minimal amount of effort to learn a few important ground floor techniques.
They did amazing stuff in the past long before multiband or even multitracking, and they kicked it out quickly with minimal effort. There’s no reason it can’t be even more easy and effortless today. Running automated processing isn’t the answer to every workflow problem. Like everything – there’s a time and place for it to excel at what it does.
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My final contribution on this topic will be to mention that it matters most what kind of monitoring & acoustics you have. You can have racks of the highest end stuff and even great people working around you, but if you monitoring and room is not telling you the truth, your decisions will be based on that… no matter what methods or gear is used.
If someone’s just starting out, and they want to automate something like average spectral balance with a multiband compressor (instead of limiter which mainly only effects peaks), then that’s great if it allows them to dump that load on an architecture that was setup and configured well by people with great accurate setups.
YouWaShock was created on a great setup, and that Imageline multiband, and the settings that were used, were chosen specifically because of how bad it sounded. On another note… the software that’s inside of YouWaShock is copyrighted and it’s a cracked version. That’s really why I won’t mention who made this joke software.
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