Still need a replacement for Volume Logic

Wait a sec…

Are you saying that with VL and Winamp, you could process audio files?!

That would mean you could customize a library to your liking and enjoy the processed sound in an environment where you can’t run VL or Breakaway – iPod, car, etc…

Am I hearing that right? Because that would be very, very cool… details?!

Jim

I did some checking, as you all got me curious about VL. I found this thread:

http://www.oldapps.com/forum/software-s … ion-9.html

Look for the post entered by the user named: "iOLD" (2 posts from the bottom of the page). I followed it and it works!!

Caveate & Possible Work Around: If you continue to get or get an error that says something about your blah blah playlist is a too new of a version to work with this version of ITunes, and ITunes then doesn’t start. Go to this path:

C:Documents and SettingsUserMy DocumentsMy MusicItunes

Here you will find all your old playlists, etc. Make a backup of this folder and handle it how you will AFTER this works. Point is, once you made a backup delete or move this entire folder to some safe place. Then delete the Itunes folder in the above path. Then start Itunes and VL will work. Although, at this time I’m using a demo version of VL that I got here:

http://www.brothersoft.com/volume-logic … 45423.html

It seems cheap enough to buy, should I like it, and so far I do like it, alot!! Hope this helps.

❗ Help requested on my post from yesterday about SAM and Breakaway Live, please, anyone?!! I’m desperate as I want to go ON AIR this weekend to test it. ❗

Thanks
Gary

bump.

Leif, we still need a replacement for Volume Logic.

high hodgegw, make sure that all sam’s agcs are checked off, then click on the use soundcard agc in the mixer section, use breakaway pipeline 1 as the input and breakaway pipeline 2 as the output, make sure the same is set in breakaway itself. don’t forget to slect ks instead of ds in breakaway

[quote author=”DjSmoothOrl”]Bump.

Replacement for Volume Logic still needed.[/quote] 😆
If Volume Logic`s processing quality is good enough for your ears then you have dozen alternative Winamp DSP and VST plugins to do batch processing (even many freeware solutions with superior audio quality).

Even if Breakaway (Live) would have a batch option the main reason to use it would be its unique simplicity and elegance of the GUI relative to its good sound quality.

But you can create VST plugin chaines (even completely based on freeware plugins) or other DSP stereo tools to have similar or superior processing quality.

➡
Stop waiting (for something that won`t happen).

The first question is:

Do you need audio processing to enhance objectively the audio quality of the music by reducing the loudness and spectral differences or do you use processing to subjectively compensate the limitations of your listening gear and environment.

IMO the only way to listen with activated processing of Breakaway Live/Enhancer or Volume Logic is to use a post EQ to reduce the artificial high frequency energy.
Play some masters like "Pink – Family Portrait" or "Avril Lavigne – I`m With You" or similar stuff via HQ headphones without any post EQ – it`s horrible with every preset (even worse than the unprocessed master ).

There is only one exception:
Ironically Volume Logic`s Acoustic preset (with default settings) is very close to the frequency balance of modern CD masters and even let the Pink and Avril Lavigne songs pass almost without additional damage.
But all other Volume Logic presets (except General – same as Acoustic but with extra bass punch) are of course and noticeable worse than most Breakaway Live presets.

Focusing Breakaway Live, I think that Zenith OB has the best frequency balance (a little bit less artificial highs than Reference Settings), but I would definetly prefer (if I had no other processing alternative) Volume Logic`s Acoustic preset.

Second question:

If you want to do batch processing, what is your file destination ?
I guess most people "needs" Volume Logic, because they want to process their music for a portable playback device using a lossy data compression codec (mp3, aac, etc.).

The problem:
Volume Logic`s output is peak limited approx. @ -0.2 dB.
So it is save to write WAV files.
But using an alternative disk writer output plugin for lossy codecs (mp3, aac, etc.) introduces clipping to the resulting files.

So if you really want to use Volume Logic than I highly recommend, that you use two steps batch processing
(if you use LAME.exe it is not necessary, because you can use the command line scale switch as an alternative):

1. Using Volume Logic (Acoustic preset with default settings !) to write WAV files.

2. Convert the WAV files to your lossy destination by applying a suitable gain reduction (this differs dependant of the codec and the data compression settings you use).
IMO this method is easier and audible superior than to apply the emphasize/de-emphasize trick (there was a topic where Leif wrote about this emphasize/de-emphasize method).

If you think that the spectral balance for most titles of your music collection is ok and the most important problem is the difference in loudness then you need a good working AGC !
If you want I can post a preset for another vintage processing plugin that mimics Volume Logic`s Acoustic preset.
This is a Winamp DSP freeware plugin !
But I hesitate to post further information here, because this a product forum for Breakaway products.
Though IMO this information would not do any harm, because it does not interfere with the professional broadcast purpose of BBP (advanced clipper technology) or BA Live.
And since there is actually no batch processing product in the Breakaway portfolio IMO that’s quite another cup of tea.
But I wait for Jesse`s reply (maybe he can ask Leif) if I can post those information here !?

[quote author=”radio oude stijl”]Right… To me Passive Agressor is like The Loch Ness Monster right now.
A lot of talk about it, but no proof! [/quote]
I uploaded plenty in the past, including the full torture test, but took the files down a while ago. Sorry that you missed it. =)

By the way, it sounds even better than those samples I uploaded before, due to a few new tricks being added to Omnia.9’s core.

[edit] oops accidentally deleted your post oude, i thought it was a double post while i was going through, my bad, but at least i quoted it in full. 😛 [/edit]