Celeste preset

I’m using Celeste preset too, and yes, it generates a precious sound, with instruments never heared on some songs, but for me have 2 little problems:

1.- The original is too overprocessed, I decrease the Final Drive at -1 and Power at 40.

2.- For my ears, the preset have a lot of treble, I want the same preset but with less treble and more bass-mid sound.

Thanks to LeeXS! 😀

[quote author=”didac”]I’m using Celeste preset too, and yes, it generates a precious sound, with instruments never heared on some songs, but for me have 2 little problems:

1.- The original is too overprocessed, I decrease the Final Drive at -1 and Power at 40.

2.- For my ears, the preset have a lot of treble, I want the same preset but with less treble and more bass-mid sound.

Thanks to LeeXS! 😀[/quote]

Hi Didac, actually you are right about the final drive, I was supposed to turn it down a bit before it went public but I forgot. When the current version is on 0 (on 50us Pre-emph!), it’s actually the max I’d recommend before you start to loose quality, I always test my presets maxed out and that’s how it was when i was racing it against the competition and boy, I think it raised some eyebrows indeed!

As for the heavy top end you are experiencing….that could be down to many reasons like the sound card you are using, your exciter or even the tilt settings. No 2 set ups will sound the same and to me, Celeste has no more top end Plutonium! try 50us pre-emph instead of 75us if you are using 75us and as for the extra bass you need, that’s what the bass level/shape sliders are for…you’ll also find that if you increase the bass it will balance out the top end issue you are having and give the perception of less treble but all this is nothing you don’t already know. 😉

I too am amazed about the detail Celeste can bring forth. A few months ago I was comparing Plutonium and Celeste, and pretty much everything from bass to treble just seems to stand out more on Celeste.

I also went on-air with Celeste for a period of time, until I noticed that the "orange part" of the AGC seems to be disabled. This means that a sudden loudness increase makes the multiband part go berzerk for a fraction of a second, and too much of the waveform reaches the clipper, resulting in too much distortion.

This is the only thing that keeps me from holding on to Celeste as my favorite preset. I know that the preset is still in beta as of version 0.90.95 of BBP, and I hope that Lee XS would consider looking into this in any possible future updates. No matter what, I send my compliments to Lee XS for a superb preset!

Hi Lee XS

I have run two clips through both Plutonium and Celeste. One is an example with music, the other is an example with speech. Both of them include sudden boosts in volume. In the music clip using Celeste, you can clearly hear how the AGC slowly catches up while the multiband compressors go into "overdrive", making it sound too compressed for ~1sec. In the speech clip the story is much the same, but here you also get som excessive clipping just when the interviewer starts to talk.
In the same clips using Plutonium you almost don’t notice the level difference, especially with the music, where the "orange part" (for lack of a better name) of the AGC almost instantly adapts to the new average volume. The speech is still clipped a bit more in the first fraction of a second, but not much.

I must add that in an ideal setting, these problems wouldn’t occur, of course. All levels would be about the same on all tracks and all speech. However, we have many jocks who stream their program to the studio over the internet from their home studio, and I can’t control their levels, unfortunately 🙄 . This can result in huge level differences when we switch from a stream to the in-studio player.
Plutonium makes this almost a non-issue, since the AGC adapts almost instantly (it also does this on most other presets in Breakaway, and I love these new features in the AGC that I haven’t seen in any other processor). If Celeste could do the same, it would be our on-air preset for sure. 😀
I hope you see the advantage of activating this part of the AGC in Celeste.

The clips can be downloaded here: http://www.1045.dk/upload/Plutonium_Celeste_clips.rar

Hey Martin, thanks for taking time to upload those clips, I’ll be working on the preset over Christmas, I’ll let you know how I get on. 😀

Yea, Not Fair.