Home Forums Breakaway Professional Products – [discontinued] Looking into purchasing the Breakaway broadcast processor

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  • #566
    Paul
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    I have been testing the demo version of the Breakaway Broadcast processor for about a month now and I do like what I hear.
    However there is a specific sound that I am trying to accomplish with my internet radio station. The station that best describes what I am trying to do is: http://207.200.96.226:8004

    Could anyone please tell me which preset and what tweaks I need to do to my Breakaway to accomplish this sound before I purchase the full version.

    Thank you very much and keep up the great work.

    #9019
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Hi Paul!

    From listening to it, you could probably emulate this sound relatively closely if you used 75us pre-emphasis to limit the treble headroom, and 15 kHz bandwidth to limit the treble response, but why intentionally limit your sound quality of the stream? Plutonium with 15us pre-emphasis and all default settings should sound louder, cleaner and punchier all at the same time.

    Compare to the "resolution" and detail of the audio at http://www.rawfm.com.au/ — I think you’ll hear what I mean 🙂.

    ///Leif

    #9020
    Paul
    Member

    Hi Leif,

    Thank you very much for your reply.
    The reason why I would like to limit the sound of the stream to the level of the station in question is that it sounds very nice on the iphone while streaming on the 3G network.
    For some reason the Quicktime player in the iphone when streaming internet audio likes to add extra highs into the audio. The station that I used as an example seems to be the only one that sounds decent on both a home/office computer set up and the iphone.

    With that said I have been playing around with Breakaway over the past week. I took your advice and with the help of a few other threads i found on this message boards geared towards tweaking the pre-set setting I have managed to find a sound that I am quite satisfied with.

    Here are my current settings on the test stream:

    Preset: Plutonium
    Final Drive: 0.3
    Range: 50
    Power: 50
    Speed: 50
    Bass Shape: +25 (tried giving it a little more warmness)
    Pass Boost: +3

    Pre-Emphasis/De-emphasis: 15us
    Hpf: 30Hz
    Bandwidth: 15.0 khz
    L/R Ref level -1.50dB
    L/R PEQ Gain: -6.50dB
    L/R PEQ Freq: 16.00khz
    L/R PEQ Width: 1.00 oct

    (I had to drop the PEQ like this otherways the high were too crisp even on my home system)

    DSP_attenuator_6dB
    Bass-EFX level: 2
    Impact/Clunk: Clunk: 2 Slam: 2

    and this is what it sounds like: http://djfm.ca:8000/djfm

    a little about my set-up:

    The sound from the Radio Automation program is being fed via M-Audio Audiophile soundcard (analog) to a Yamaha Promix 01 board. There is no processing being done on the Yamaha board and the EQ is left flat.
    From there it gets sent via Analog Balanced outbuts to the input of another M-Audio Audiophile sound card which is attached to an old P4 3.00GHZ Laptop with 384MB of RAM running Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2.

    This is where the Breakaway sits. I am forced to run it in the CPU friendly mode because the laptop is just not powerful enough to support Full Quality mode. The sound starts cutting out.

    The processed sound then gets sent to the encoder/logger computer via S/PDIF, yup you guessed it another AudioPhile M-Audio card.

    Now the sound is not 100% what I have in mind but it pretty damn close. If you have any suggestions as to making it a little better please fire them at me. I am willing to put this baby to the test. So far I am really impressed with the product.

    #9021
    George
    Member

    [quote author=”Leif”]
    Compare to the "resolution" and detail of the audio at http://www.rawfm.com.au/ — I think you’ll hear what I mean 🙂.
    ///Leif[/quote]

    Leif,

    RawFM BBP has exactly the same problem with the clicks-cracks as I have !!!

    #9022
    yorkie98
    Participant

    Paul, it may be simply that the laptop is not up to the job, also 384mb (512-128 for video) of ram is nowhere near enough, I’m suprised your OS even runs on that little, try upgrading it to 1Gb minimum, which will leave 896 for the OS which is much more like what you need nowadays. Despite this it may just simply be that the CPU cant keep up.

    #9023
    Paul
    Member

    Hi Yorkie,

    The laptop is definitely not up to the job. I am going to upgrade to a newer machine as soon as I can. Finances are a little tight right now and this is only my hobby so it’s not high on my priority at this time.
    I am still very surprised that Breakaway continues to run as solid as it does on this substandard laptop.

    #9024
    JesseG
    Member

    [quote author=”yorkie98″]Paul, it may be simply that the laptop is not up to the job, also 384mb (512-128 for video) of ram is nowhere near enough, I’m suprised your OS even runs on that little, try upgrading it to 1Gb minimum, which will leave 896 for the OS which is much more like what you need nowadays. Despite this it may just simply be that the CPU cant keep up.[/quote]

    I have a machine here that people use to surf with Opera on, and it has OpenOffice for typing… just some computer i could care less about for friends…

    It’s running Windows XP SP3 Pro on 64 MB of ram, not including the deduction for the 4MB of shared video memory!!! And it actually isn’t as painfully slow as you would think. With 256MB of ram, and 16MB of real video memory, it would be way more than enough for what its use is for. To use it with Breakaway, all you would need is a much faster CPU for it. 😛 I did mention it is a Celeron 350mHz? 😀

    My point is… just because Windows Vista requires 3GB of memory and 128MB GPU memory to look pretty, doesn’t mean you can’t have a perfectly functioning and fast stable system for Breakaway, running XP on 128MB of system memory with 16MB of video memory. But I would still go for 256MB of memory and a 128MB video card (which is about as small as they make them anymore, with decent GDI+ and DirectDraw acceleration). There’s no reason I can think of where you would ever have a problem running Breakaway on a system with that much memory.

    As far as inability to keep up, that’s partly the CPU… as Paul already stated. But it also has a lot to do with the chipset and audio card and all of the related drivers once you start caring about latency.

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