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  • #425
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Howdy!

    Latest versions at:

    BBP ASIO 0.90.80
    BBP 0.90.80
    BA Live 0.90.81

    Please note, I’m traveling, and releasing this version from my parents kitchen table. It’s BETA with plenty of new code. Now more than ever, make sure to do some long-term testing before installing in a mission-critical environment such as on-air.

    Let me know how it works out 🙂. I’ve tested as well as I can, but I don’t have my lab, all I have at the moment is my laptop.

    ///Leif

    #7830
    Guillou
    Member

    Hi Leif,

    First, thanks !
    Then, can you tell us more about stereo expander ?
    Have you some preset for example because it’l very different of 222A or stereo max… 😉

    #7831
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Hi Guillou!

    Yes, try the following settings:

    They will greatly widen narrow tracks, but also pull hard-panned instruments a little towards center. This seems to work great for all types of music, and sounds great even when playing hard-panned stuff (think Beatles) in headphones.

    Also, the Solo Band control is a SLIDER, not a button! You can use it to solo the crossovers.

    Challenger is a 5-band crossover and a 4-band stereo enhancer. Band 1 (bass) never goes through the stereo enhancer!

    ///Leif

    #7832

    Good stuff Leif! It’s really an improvement, especially on rock music and 70’s / 80’s stuff. You don’t hear it that much on dance music, but that kind of music doesn’t have a wide variety of tones. An exception is trance music, you can hear it working well on that too :mrgreen:

    #7833
    Guillou
    Member

    Thanks Leif,

    I’ll test it much better this evening !

    #7834
    Conor Hyland
    Member

    Excellent Leif,

    Yet another milestone achieved!
    Have been looking forward to a Breakaway Stereo Enhancer / Expander for some time!
    Can’t wait to check it out later – Spartacus won’t be needed anymore… 🙂

    Conor

    #7835
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Thanks, guys!

    Almost forgot — the Breakaway Live occasional 1-second freeze bug should be fixed too. It happened because settings are saved automatically, 10 seconds after you modify a control, and saving settings was atrociously inefficient. I was saving to the ini file one key at a time. This didn’t matter much before, but once I added the EQ with its extreme amount of settings, all of a sudden it took a full second on a modern machine, with the interface freezing in the mean time. Oops!

    I now save the whole section with one API call instead.

    ///Leif

    #7836
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Quick and dirty challenger documentation:

    Solo Band: Off / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5
    Allows you to hear where the crossover frequencies are. Challenger has a 5-band crossover and 4-band stereo widener. Band 1 (bass) is not widened at all.

    Target: Sets the desired width. 100% means L-R (Diff) has as much energy as L+R (Sum). 100% is hard panning! I.e., if you have ALL left and NO right, Diff will be equal in energy to Sum, and that means 100%. Any more than 100% and you’re turning the stereo image inside out.

    Challenger will increase or decrease L-R gain to meet your target, but with the following limitations:

    Max Gain: Never ever gain more than you specify here
    Max Atten: Never ever attenuate more than you specify here

    Attack: Speed of attenuation
    Release: Speed of gain

    Finally, some highly intentional restrictions:
    Mono signals are not widened.
    Silence is not widened.
    Bass is not widened.
    Overly wide signals are not widened.

    Everything else is.

    Best,
    ///Leif

    #7837
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I don’t remember how it was before, but at least in the new Live here, if I apply any EQ headroom, the level is reduced whether EQ is enabled or not. Shouldn’t EQ Headroom only take effect when EQ is enabled?

    #7838
    Appie
    Member

    Nice work Leif !

    Works great , compliments !

    Tested overhere with a few tracks like : Propaganda – ( duel eye to eye )

    #7839
    lpy7
    Member

    Plutonium, NR, Stereo enhance, this thing’s a monster! 🙂 Love it

    But what does the Max atten do?

    #7840
    Leif
    Keymaster

    [quote author=”maczrool”]I don’t remember how it was before, but at least in the new Live here, if I apply any EQ headroom, the level is reduced whether EQ is enabled or not. Shouldn’t EQ Headroom only take effect when EQ is enabled?[/quote]

    If the EQ headroom was only applied when EQ was on, you’d be blasted out of the room whenever you bypass EQ to audition whether your settings are helping or not.

    [quote author=”<em>lpy</em>”]Plutonium, NR, Stereo enhance, this thing’s a monster! 🙂 Love it

    But what does the Max atten do?[/quote]

    Setting Max Attenuation higher than 0 allows challenger to *narrow* the stereo image if it’s already excessively wide. This is great for listeners who listen to your station in headphone — i would think a lot of people do in bigger cities where people take public transportation to work, and bring their mp3 players or mobile phones with built in fm radios.

    [quote author=”Appie”]Nice work Leif !

    Works great , compliments !

    Tested overhere with a few tracks like : Propaganda – ( duel eye to eye )[/quote]

    Thank you 🙂.

    ///Leif

    #7841
    Ken
    Member

    Leif,

    "Challenger" sounds super, way better than old Orban 222 (and 8400). I do like that it’s multiband and the "Max Attenuation".

    Great that you added "stelth mode" but I think that the osiloscope is to wide when you hide the controls, keep the same width as when controls are visible.

    /Ken

    #7842
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I love this new version of Live! but the only thing I notice is switching between presets and exiting and restarting the program, it doesn’t save the preset settings like before. Am I missing anything on how to save??

    Thanks
    Chris

    #7843
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I am losing my settings in Live whenever I change presets. I know it used to save, but I don’t see anyone mentioning this problem.

    Stuart

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