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June 23, 2009 at 3:51 pm #382LeifKeymaster
It’s been a long time coming. Thanks for being patient — it’s finally here!
Version 0.90.79:
- Noise Reduction now selectable for every preset!
Version 0.90.78:
- Effect plug-ins now work properly in Audio Realtime Priority mode
- Minor bug fixes
Version 0.90.77:
- Point Blank preset updated!
- L/R Tilt coefficient bug fixed
- Nod32 false positive fixed
- Breakaway Pipeline version conflict problem fixed
Version 0.90.75:
- Now runs on 48 kHz ASIO sound cards! (No MPX in this mode, of course). If you have an external stereo generator, you no longer need a 192 kHz audio card. For AM or FM Mono, you also do not need a 192 kHz audio card.
- Sample-rate display in I/O configuration test mode now works properly
- Problem with high DPI settings in Windows 7 Aero fixed
- Improved performance when changing to presets with different number of bands
Version 0.90.74
- Initial Release
- All in one broadcast processor.
- Requires ASIO capable sound card running at 192,000 Hz.
- Low latency — Microphone to Airwaves (MPX) in 17ms!
- Cleanest low latency FM processor on the planet — advanced distortion-masked clipper
- Ultra low latency studio output — Microphones to Headphones in 8ms.
- Supports both hardware and software RDS encoders.
- ITU BS.1770 input meters! Accurate quick-glance meters helps you get the levels just right when mixing or broadcasting live.
- Optional full-quality high-latency mode (same as standard BBP), still allows low-latency studio monitoring through a single sound card
Enjoy! 🙂
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 12:26 am #7583camcloneMember* Optional full-quality high-latency mode (same as standard BBP), still allows low-latency studio monitoring through a single sound card :
Leif, can you explain what do u mean by using the words : full quality ?
what are the differences and where do they are "shown" ? under what "sound enviroment"
trebble? bass? more body? better voices?
YOU ARE THE BEST DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOES THIS ASIO VERSION…HAVE MPX CLIPPER?????????????????????????????????????!?!!?!?!?!?!
June 24, 2009 at 2:42 am #7584LeifKeymasterquote :Leif, can you explain what do u mean by using the words : full quality ?Sure. BBP ASIO, in low latency mode, sounds almost as good as regular BBP. Latency in the low latency algorithm has been cut by a factor of 50 — something has to go. The low latency mode is not phase linear. In fact, low latency phase linear is impossible if you have bass processing!
I would say the low latency mode is 90% of the quality of the full latency, full quality mode, on most program material, which still makes it much cleaner than the competitors. 🙂
What are the differences?
During heavy processing, the phase linear Breakaway Core is significantly more transparent than the low latency core. You can easily try this in Breakaway Live, where you can switch between Phase Linear and Low Latency, without changing anything else.
For the clipper, the full latency clipper is better at masking distortion, because it has much more time to analyze the audio, and many more stages to do the processing in. The low latency one has to hurry everything, so that it doesn’t delay beyond the human echo-fusion threshold.
That being said, I am very satisfied how clean the low latency version came out. When I first developed the BBP algorithm, I never would have dreamed it would be possible to make it this clean at realtime latency levels!
It is still xylophone safe, still telephone safe, and still the only family of FM processors which can claim this feat 😉.
To make a long story short, in Full Quality mode, BBP ASIO is not low latency, but sounds just as good as regular BBP.
Even if you use this mode, BBP ASIO still has the advantage of giving you a low latency studio monitoring output through the same sound card, from the same program! No need to combine BBP and BA Live anymore.
In fact, even if you have just a 2-channel sound card (such as ESI Juli@ or M Audio AP192), you can still take advantage of this, by using the Left output for MPX, and the Right output for mono studio output.
You could probably also use the S/PDIF output to get stereo studio output, but you’d need a DAC that can accept 192k s/pdif input.
quote :DOES THIS ASIO VERSION…HAVE MPX CLIPPER??No. Sorry!
Actually, during my experiments I’ve been unable to make the composite clipper perform acceptably with less than 50ms latency or so, even using all the tricks I learned during development of the BBP ASIO low latency. I don’t have a lot of hope that it will be able to be fast enough. The clipper has to have less than 10ms latency (L/R input to finished MPX output) to be able to function realtime, because ASIO also adds latency, and multiband processing also adds latency.
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 7:58 am #7585AnonymousGuestCool! Can’t wait to try it 🙂 Does this version feature the same (improved) presets as the new non-ASIO version?
June 24, 2009 at 9:16 am #7586LeifKeymasterquote :Does this version feature the same (improved) presets as the new non-ASIO version?It does!
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 10:04 am #7587AnonymousGuestcan’t wait to test it.. does it need a new Reg key to register it?
/Martijn
June 24, 2009 at 10:51 am #7588LeifKeymasterHi Martijn!
Yes, BBP ASIO is a completely new product.
People who own both Breakaway Live and Breakaway Broadcast will get it for free, and we’ll keep this promotion alive for a while, along with upgrade options.
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 11:23 am #7589AnonymousGuest[quote author=”Leif”]Hi Martijn!
Yes, BBP ASIO is a completely new product.
People who own both Breakaway Live and Breakaway Broadcast will get it for free, and we’ll keep this promotion alive for a while, along with upgrade options.
///Leif[/quote]
Great!, and how can we upgrade / get the new license?
June 24, 2009 at 1:39 pm #7590LeifKeymasterHi Martijn!
I haven’t worked this out with Keith Edwards yet, but will very shortly. Do you own both BBP and Live already?
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 2:01 pm #7591KenMemberI did a quick test, and I like it a lot!
I hade to set latency on my ESI-MAYA44 to 1024 (outhervise I got poping/cracking sound) , but stil studio out is good for live performance (I can’t here any delay on the mic). MPX is about 0.5 sec deleyed.
Sounds as good in the studio as on OnAir, works just fine with with Airomate.
Running on a AMD Dualcore 2.7GHz, 2GB ram, Vista Business. CPU load 60-65%
Very nice product Leif!
/Ken
June 24, 2009 at 6:25 pm #7592LeifKeymasterquote :I hade to set latency on my ESI-MAYA44 to 1024 (outhervise I got poping/cracking sound) , but stil studio out is good for live performance (I can’t here any delay on the mic). MPX is about 0.5 sec deleyed.Try running with or without realtime priority, it may make a difference. Also, if MPX is 0.5 seconds delayed, you’re running in Full Quality mode. Try low latency mode 🙂. There’s a switch in the signal settings window.
///Leif
June 24, 2009 at 8:30 pm #7593AnonymousGuest[quote author=”Leif”]Hi Martijn!
I haven’t worked this out with Keith Edwards yet, but will very shortly. Do you own both BBP and Live already?
///Leif[/quote]
Yes i own both!
Martijn
June 24, 2009 at 9:49 pm #7594KenMember[quote author=”Leif”]
quote :I hade to set latency on my ESI-MAYA44 to 1024 (outhervise I got poping/cracking sound) , but stil studio out is good for live performance (I can’t here any delay on the mic). MPX is about 0.5 sec deleyed.Try running with or without realtime priority, it may make a difference. Also, if MPX is 0.5 seconds delayed, you’re running in Full Quality mode. Try low latency mode 🙂. There’s a switch in the signal settings window.
///Leif[/quote]
Ok I try change mode. But the 0.5 sec delay on MPX don’t border me, as I listen to the studio output,I rather have "Full Quality" than lower quality and low latency on MPX output.
But I have an request. I have many ASIO soundcards, but only MAYA44 have 4 ASIO channels out and support 192k. (and I think not so many card have 4 or more channels and 192k). So my request is that BBP ASIO could support two ASIO cards, one for studio output and one card for MPX.
/Ken
June 25, 2009 at 2:50 am #7595LeifKeymasterquote :. But the 0.5 sec delay on MPX don’t border me, as I listen to the studio output,I rather have “Full Quality” than lower quality and low latency on MPX output.I am so happy to hear this! I completely agree. Forget what I said about Low Latency, full quality indeed sounds better. 🙂
quote :So my request is that BBP ASIO could support two ASIO cards, one for studio output and one card for MPX.I’m afraid it’s not that simple. ASIO achieves low latency because Input and Output are hard synchronized, sample-for-sample, and are handled on the same callback. To use two ASIO devices at the same time, I have to put an asynchronous sample rate converter and buffers between them, and this will add at least 10ms latency — enough to push it over the edge for realtime monitoring not to be possible.
So, the short answer is, if you want low latency studio output through a 44/48k asio card, and also want mpx output in the same machine, there is a good solution, and you own it already. Breakaway Live + Breakaway Broadcast Processor 🙂.
Best,
///LeifJune 25, 2009 at 11:55 am #7596GuillouMemberHi,
What is the best choice of 192khz sound card to use with BBP ASIO ?
Which model do you have tested ?
I’d like an external model… -
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