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  • #325
    Anonymous
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    I know this is a pipe dream but I need to be able to process an hour long sound file on a Mac.

    I record a weekly mixshow for an online station. After I record the show live (in a Mac, probably with Garage Band or something similar), I need to master the sound file just like the old Volume Logic did a few years ago.

    For me, it would be ALL about processing a sound file after it’s been recorded.

    I could do it in Windows format but everyone knows Macs are better for audio. 😉

    Is there a Breakaway product that could do this?

    Thanks

    #7192
    celar
    Member

    Just a question: The online station that’s going to air the show, do they use some sort of processing? If so, then you might not even want to process your show before sending to them (to avoid double-processing which sounds bad).

    #7193
    Anonymous
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    I’m not sure what they use. My show goes all throughout the world via direct mp3 downloads, iTunes podcast, etc., so it’s not just about the online station.

    Not to mention I’m a phreak about sound quality. I have a method of "mastering" the show at the moment but I’d really like to move it from PC to Mac.

    #7194
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Hi DjSmooth!

    I’m the developer of Breakaway. I develop exclusively on PCs.

    It’s possible that there will be a version of Breakaway Audio Enhancer for mac at some point in the future — but anything pro-related will be PC only with 99% certainty.

    Yeah, everyone knows Macs are better than PCs for audio.. Everyone knows DSPs are better than CPUs too 😉

    (That must be why O***n needs 12 DSPs to do a quarter of the work of one single Intel Atom. Compare 8585 to AERO.qc)

    Best,
    ///Leif

    #7195
    Anonymous
    Guest

    It doesn’t have to be pro related, I just need the ability to apply breakaway to a sound file on the system.

    I’ll record the sound file in a different program and then would need to "master" it using breakaway.

    #7196
    AdamH
    Member

    I know that online stations are not your only audience, but for those stations that are running your show….

    PLEASE don’t process your show and send it out…this is not your job – it is the radio station’s job. Any station worth their salt that is running your show will have decent processing, and anything you do to clip the signal beforehand will make it unlistenable.

    I once ran a syndicated show on my station…it was a really good show, too. But they pre-processed the whole thing (music included) so I stopped airing it. Breakaway is not a mastering tool. If you need to do that, use a plug-in…there are plenty of those to choose from. And…they work in batch mode, so it will take mere seconds to do it. I recommend the db-audioware Mastering Limiter -$39.

    Adam

    #7197
    JesseG
    Member

    Actually, the best thing you can do to make your show sound better happens long before something a mastering engineer would do.

    Running a limiter on it is going to make it sound worse on-air.

    The quality of a show totally depends on the gear used during it’s production, and how properly EQed everything is.

    Case in point:
    http://ictybtihky.com/overfiend/2009050 … end909.mp3
    archive recording of the LIVE stream being sent out from the studio for a show called Electronic Warfare that I’ve been engineering for 5 years. There’s easily been over $30,000 dropped on getting gear for this show, and you’ll find there isn’t a Drum & Bass show out there with a better sound. Not to mention MUCH of what is played is vinyl. (mostly unsigned & unreleased)

    We of course are using Breakaway, the preset is pretty close to what the final Rustonium sounds like, but that’s besides the point. If we were running crappy gear into a crappy ADC (like an M-Audio) it wouldn’t sound anywhere near as good as this sounds. But we’re using top of the line gear very selectively chosen, across the board.

    Other than some of the "masters" on these releases sounding like total crap (you can even tell slightly through Breakaway sometimes) the sound of the unprocessed audio is pretty close to what you hear other than the volume being nicely smoothed out. Breakaway will NEVER make something better out of something that is already ruined, not having the potential to sound better.

    And as far as I’m concerned…. An "off" EQ that still has proper crest/frequency relationships is really the only thing that can be corrected for that allows you to increase the perceptive quality of a recording. Varying broadcast audio processors have varying ability to correct for these issues, and in that regard… getting a proper EQ on all of the audio you are mixing (mics, promos, music, phones, etc, etc) is really where it’s at for getting awesome quality on-air.

    If you have all of those ducks in a row, and are re-EQing the music that needs it (you need more skill & more accurate monitoring than the person that mastered it to do this, don’t even try to attempt this unless I’m already preaching to the choir or else you WILL make it worse)… then you won’t even need broadcast audio processing at all for the people’s stations who are airing your show. And if the stations playing it do have "crappy" audio processing, then it’s LESS likely that it will screw up the sound of your show as much as it would if you had pre-processed it with something like limiting, or Breakaway. In 95% of all cases, that is the truth.

    J

    #7198
    Anonymous
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    One more time..

    quote :

    My show goes all throughout the world via direct mp3 downloads, iTunes podcast, etc., so it’s not just about the online station.

    You guys are way too hung up on the online radio in my original thread…forgot that for a second.

    I want to do something VERY simple. Take a long .wav file (or .aif on mac) and run it through Breakaway and have the processed file saved as a new file. Pretty straightforward. 🙂

    #7199
    Leif
    Keymaster

    DjSmooth, I understand. I’m sorry to have bad news, but like I said, I don’t have a mac — I develop on PCs. It’s possible that at some point the most basic, most mass-appeal version of Breakaway (that is, BAE) will be ported to mac.

    However, the chances of a breakaway file processor being ported to mac are slim to none. I’m just being honest here — don’t wait for it. If using a PC really isn’t an option for you, then I have no recommendation for you, as again, I develop on PCs, and I have never been a mac user or developer.

    Best regards,
    ///Leif

    #7200
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I have several PCs too. I use everything from Protools to Sound Forge.

    You give me a way to process a sound file on a PC and I can make use of it. I’d REALLY like a winamp plug-in of Breakaway; that would be ideal. 🙂

    #7201
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Alright 🙂.

    That DOES have a chance of happening. It’s one of those things I do want to do, if only I can figure out the technical / business issues.

    ///Leif

    #7202
    Anonymous
    Guest

    If/when it comes out..I’m buying one.

    #7203
    Dr.J
    Member

    Use Total Recorder… http://www.highcriteria.com/
    It will record your program to whatever format you’d like…

    #7204
    Leif
    Keymaster

    ..or use ANY audio recorder with breakaway pipeline. This is possible today, but it’s indeed a lot easier to have a dedicated file processor.

    ///Leif

    #7205
    Anonymous
    Guest

    i may try it with Sound Forge, which is what i’m using to record the show at the moment.

    think i bought a license for Breakaway couple years ago when it first came out.

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