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I’ve been using BBP with SAM – Leif helped me here in the forums with the settings and they were sweet! I decided I wanted to go back to OtsAv Radio Broadcaster, but the setup on my laptop would not work (even though I ran SAM and BBP from the laptop just fine) as it was stuttering pretty badly. This is kind of odd since SAM and BBP ran fine, and Ots doesn’t use a database, so MySQL wasn’t running and taking up any resources.
Anyway, to make a long story short, I removed BBP from the laptop and installed it on my desktop (which is beefy – quad-core processor and 4GB RAM). I’ve used this before with SAM and no problems at all – and OtsAv barely touches the CPU resources. I set it up with Ots (everything in Ots was shut off as far as the EQ and the dynamic processor). Ots was set to use the BBP pipeline, and BBP was enabled for the encoder. I used the exact same settings as before. It sounded fine for about maybe 5 minues or so but then degraded horribly. It was REALLY bad.
The encoder isn’t the issue (I use Spacial Audio’s encoder) since it was the same I was using with SAM. Of course, with SAM, BBP is run with LiveLink as a DSP – in Ots, it isn’t.
Has anyone got this working decently? OtsAv has a lot going for it, but I want to use my Breakaway Broadcast Processor. I was wondering if I should maybe try running the Stacker DSP and have it load the LiveLink DSP and then the encoder, rather than outputting from OtsAv to the pipeline and then from BBP to the encoder.
Really would appreciate any suggestions!
It could be a problem with the Pipeline. I will release a new version of BBP shortly (including new pipeline), which will hopefully take care of it.
Best,
///LeifThat’s great, Leif! I really like OtsAv Radio Broadcaster but I don’t want to be without Breakaway Broadcast Processor!!!!
It could be that Ots is a total piece of crap when it comes to audio input/output.
When I was CE at radioio.com (for it’s first 7 years) we were running M-Audio Delta DiO and mostly Audiophile cards (before you say anything, it was all digital path, not analog)… and there was literally only one version of the soundcard drivers that would run smoothly with Ots an nothing else on the Ots machines. I got the driver from M-Audio myself, and it was never on their website.
My point is… Ots is VERY finicky about the soundcards (or virtual soundcards) it’s using… as well as the how the OS & computer interact too. Finicky to the point of being a total piece of crap imho, even if it was free. So maybe check the various Ots related user forums out there, like Jumpin Jeff’s. Also there are a few people on these forums who are using Ots with VAC (Breakaway Pipeline is VAC) and PM them for advice.
Lastly, Ots does in fact use a database for it’s library, which it loads into memory every time you start it up. 8)
[quote author=”JesseG”]Lastly, Ots does in fact use a database for it’s library, which it loads into memory every time you start it up. 8)[/quote]
Thanks Jesse … what I meant by database though was an external database, like MySql, PostGreSQL, etc. Ots’s ‘database’ is really a file and, as you said, it loads it into memory. It doesn’t rely on an external database which will use a lot more resources up.
In any event, my PC is heavy-duty enough and it should not be an issue. If Leif’s new release solves the problem that would be great, if not I’ll probably just go back to SAM, which works great with BBP.
I kick around the Ots forums and will see if I can find anything there, though I haven’t as of yet.
Jesse,
Just curious…do you live in Tampa or did you at one time? I know RadioIO has an office just down the street from me (I live in Tampa). I was wondering if their streams originate out of there.
As a side note, what is with IO’s crossfading? It sounds like complete $hit…as the song fades, it is cut off and then there is dead air for a couple seconds while the next song fires (which is also frequently cut off). I haven’t listened in a few months, but last I heard, this was still going on.
Adam
I haven’t worked there in a few years now. Not sure why they decided to homogenize everything, and throw out the main value of the company itself… the brains behind the business logic and the technical stuff. 😉 But I can’t say their stock price (1 penny) doesn’t reflect that decision. 😆
AFAIK right now the streams originate at Voxel in New York. They are literally using iTunes with Volume Logic to source the streams (in virtual machines, OSX), last I heard only 160kbps for transit stream, which goes to even less sub-par transcoding. Indeed it sounds like total crap now.
When I was there, from the beginning… and through the point of being hosted at Limelight Networks… we were running my own audio processing (yes, i have some of my own too), and EdCast with purpose-built Lame tweaks on each codec rate with no transcoding at all. And Ots for the playout software.
Leif described my audio processing as "a very good sounding EQ" lol. But that was the point, to not touch the loudness, only the spectrum balance, and to transform the micro-dynamics. A lot of the Hi Fi guys really loved it. We also were using Ots’ AGC so the average level was relatively pretty decent and consistent.
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