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  • #216
    Peter Tate
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    Hi guys,

    Forgive me if this is addressed elsewhere. I’ve got the demo of "broadcast" and set up the Edcast encoder as discribed in the forum elsewhere. That’s all working fine!

    I just can’t seem to work out why Edcast will not Save or reload the servers I had set up.

    So whe you Stop broadcast it also closes edcast. Fine! Now when you re open it. Edcast doesn’t reload the servers set up.

    This is the final hurdle for me. When sorted I ‘ll be getting a proper copy.

    Any ideas?

    cheers

    Pete

    #6457
    Leif
    Keymaster

    It might be a bug on my part. For now, try pressing the "Reload" button to reload the encoder plugins — that should definitely make it save the settings. I’ll look into what goes wrong on shutdown.

    ///Leif

    #6458
    Peter Tate
    Participant

    Would it be the difference between using the standalone or the dsp version? I’m sing the DSP.

    Thanks heaps

    Peter

    #6459
    Leif
    Keymaster

    I’ve been using DSP too. Never actually tried the standalone version.

    ///Leif

    #6460
    Peter Tate
    Participant

    All sorted Leif. Thanks. It’s just a little click on the reload and you are all sorted! Thanks.

    Maybe put Reload/Save on the button! Am I the only one?

    The Standalone version does something funky with the dll’s compared to the dsp version. A couple of mates use it. The same grabbing of the dll’s to get lame and AAC+ (not AAC) to work will only get you lame (I think). There is a difference there and we spent hours trying older dll’s from various winamps. Then it sprung to life – we are not sure to this day exactly wot we did. These mates use proper off board gear for processing. We got onto Oddsock as it was the only encoder (at the time) that will pull metadata from an external source.

    I hope you will not go mad at me. But I was given a copy of the old Octimax 5.1 for Winamp. I didn’t ask so i wasn’t told! Seriously it’s a good piece of equipement for it’s time. I am using it today. As you would expect i’m having issues with the brightness of the tops!
    Any suggestions to help (other than get Breakaway Broadcast). Only thing stopping me there is it means purchasing a faster computer in addition to purchasing the processor.

    Cheers

    Peter

    #6461

    Octimax sounds not bad, and it has very low CPU usage. I used it before BBP, with the Rock preset. But Octimax gives too much high, and not enough in the middle frequency area. Also when the high and middle tones come in, they push away the bass a little (it can be vice versa too). I think that is very annoying. I also had this problem with the famous Thomas Limiter, and i couldn’t get it solved completely.

    BBP don’t have that problem, and sounds way better then Octimax. But that is just my personal opinion.

    #6462
    Peter Tate
    Participant

    I believe you may have the same problem. I didn’t like the Rock preset for similar reasons. I’ve only slightly modified the FB Hit Radio 4 preset. The only issue I have is the tops still get a little out of hand. I really believe the key is the pre-emphasis limiting of Breakaway Broadcast to be the saving grace. Even though people say it’s not needed for streaming, I would strongly disagree. In my use of trialling the Breakaway I still ran the pre-emph at 50 as that is the standard for FM here in Australia. I noticed a little diference on the streams in the "presence" and "tops" when changing the pre-emphasis settings. I fully believe that whilst a broadcast processor is the best fix it isn’t the "exact" animal for the job. Streaming and the nature of mp3 encoders need to be biult into a product like Breakaway. That day will truly bring things ahead. But for now leaving the pre-emph "on" is what’s doing the trick!

    I never ran Thomas limiter for more that 5 minutes, that was all it took to realise it’s not in the same ball park.

    I was wondering if I had missed a couple of tweaks for the old Octimax. God knows I never got a manual for it.

    Cheers

    Pete

    http://www.stationx.com.au – is where you can find my streams

    #6463
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Whoa, Octimax 5.1 for Winamp?
    That product was never publically released — I’ve only ever given copies of the development version to friends. That’s very disappointing. Good thing it’s long obsolete.

    Indeed, the OctiMax cores (both Classic and 5.1) did have a severe problem with the midrange excessively ducking. It was a problem inherent to the algorithm, and because of the nature of it, it was impossible to tweak around, even with the full control preset editor. Solving that problem was one of the major night-and-day improvements when I first developed the Breakaway core from scratch — and of course it has only gotten better since. 🙂

    Breakaway Live should run well on older systems as well. If Broadcast is too heavy for your system, try Live! 🙂

    Regarding Reload/Save — it’s a bug on my part, plain and simple. It should be saving when you shut down, you shouldn’t have to ask it to. So, I’ll fix it for the next version 🙂.

    Best regards,
    ///Leif

    #6464
    Peter Tate
    Participant

    I didn’t ask Lief. But seriously for what was around at the time it’s leaps ahead of Sound Solution and the likes. I’ve even tried VST plugins via a bridge for Winamp’s DSP. JB Broadcast is tops but it cann’t be saved and reverts to default when re opened.

    Thanks for the reload tip. That’s all you gotta remember to do, just reload and all is good!

    I’ll give "live" ago but I’m really sold on the pre-emph trick. Does great things for streams too. Even though it’s not needed technically. Might want to think about the quirks of mp3 encoding in this area.

    Cheers

    Pete

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