Best Sounding Streams Discussion

I hear a lot of garbage streams. Some streams like feeded directly from the mixing board with no processing in between. Some streams sounds great. For example in the USA. Processing for streaming radio is very underestimated on most of the stations. The stations have lots of money for decent FM processing but there streaming audio sounds like garbage. I don’t know why that is.

No excuse. Do it good, or not. There are lot of cheap possibilities around like Breakaway.

Topic for comments/discussion of the links in "best sounding stream" topic. I made this to keep that other topic clean. 8)

That way we can keep the other topic down to 1 post per person, that everyone *should* be able to edit their own posts on, to update with new links etc, and then we can have 50 pages of discussion here. Also this will prevent links from getting buried etc, and give everyone a fair chance to be heard. 8)

I merged some posts into this topic, if you don’t notice above. hehe.

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By the way Benny, yes, that stream you have is pretty loud. Because of the way that codecs lose peak control, I think you can stay just as loud on your normal streaming codecs (like AAC) and sound a lot better because you’re not always clipping the peaks to a level that low, and removing that much detail, etc. It’s hard to listen to your stream for very long, because it is relentless.

[quote author=”bennylein1985″]for the ogg stream i use 0.3db ATT
and for the he-aac i use 3.5db[/quote]
Try 2dB less drive into final clipper, use 25uS pre-emphasis (with de-emphasis of course), and see if you can bring your AAC gain up to -1.5dB. You should get a more easy to listen to and more dynamic sound overall, with about the same overshoot potential you have now.

[quote author=”bennylein1985″]bbp adds pre-emphasis after agc, right?
i disable it still now….i use 15us before.[/quote]
The pre-emphasis is right before the clipper, so it’s after everything else except for the clipper.

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GRB (aka "feeling"), in my opinion… the stream link you just posted sounds the best of the ones posted yesterday/today I think, because it maintains ~all of the dynamics. 8)

[quote author=”JesseG”][quote author=”bennylein1985″]for the ogg stream i use 0.3db ATT
and for the he-aac i use 3.5db[/quote]
Try 2dB less drive into final clipper, use 25uS pre-emphasis (with de-emphasis of course), and see if you can bring your AAC gain up to -1.5dB. You should get a more easy to listen to and more dynamic sound overall, with about the same overshoot potential you have now.[/quote]

Where set -2 db only for AAC? I use dsp_attenuator_3dB.dll in Effect plug-ins.

the reason of this loudness is not, using the overshoot potetnial from encoder!!