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yes..but why the big stations with excellent signal ..have sound aufull in that old sony car radio ?
I think that it has to do with the stereo pillot.
Maiby you should have the pilot at 11.2 % or more.
I did that and i am compatible with all the stereo radio car recievers!camcloneMemberwow ! that fu@@@ing old sony radio…
some stations play OK, some stations play like compressed with pump ups on volume ..
what’s going on here?:)
i don’t know.
in my case..it was the exciter clipper…the problem,
camcloneMemberI had the same problem in some sony radios in old Cars…
The cause is …clipper on the exciter.
disable any mpx limiters clippers at the links or at the exciters!!
and play at max 75 KHz…or less
MPX clipping is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
( in most cases ) ( the shape of your signal becomes flat and some recievers lcok 1.5 MHz before your frequency
and in some recievers the volume is like ..bad compressed voice…when using mpx clipiping.🙂)
camcloneMemberthis radio station is playing greek music…so 98% of listeners are greek people. I never wanted to advertise my station here !
I just wanna go ON AIR with Windows …software…powered by intel hardware..
Anywayz.
I think i am at the right way now..
mms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
Thanks everyone 🙂p.s.
this topic was very good for …google archiving.
People who search for loudness will realise that distortion ..is a factor of loudness. except…breakaway broadcast which can do many for loudness without audible distortion IF your source is acceptably clear of course!camcloneMemberWowowowowowowoowowow!
Something has changed in my production Room….
..guesss…what!!
S P E A K E R S and H E A D P H O N E S also..the resault :
…when i listened to my "old" "baaaaad" settings …my ears , ohh my god!
what was that!? 6 days ON AIR with that sh@@@it.
The cause of this huge distortion on MID and HIGHs was the exessive clipping with …distorted overdriven mids!
The problem was on the proccesing of sound and NOT on my chain (soundcards..tilts, cables.)the end :
I lowered the clipping overdrives..
I changed the bass shape and drive.
i changed also the speed and power settings..
(I use an 7 band preset )Still the loudest radio station in Crete island !! and legal! 73 KHz exactly .
But now it’s much much much cleaner.Now you can listen for ..more than 10 minutes
( take care that 5 at 10 songs are bad recordings …so wait for 2 or 3 songs to play..) ( i still believe that 5% of distortion is becuse of the encoder..)
remember : i wanna be loud on FM so, don’t wait to hear a "reference" sound.
It’s still loud , very very loud… but clearer and bassy
mms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
NEVER NEVER NEVER make sound proccesing without using good speakers like i did the last days.
JessieG one of your 7 band presets …is wowowowowowowowowow!! ..but i edited the settings to acheve loudness with more pseudo-dynamics than ever!!
Leif ..your code is wowowowowowowowow!!!!
I am sure that now i am affortable clear and loud ( don’t forget FM )camcloneMemberWow!
After 8 more hours of listening on DIFFERENT sound systems with high quality speakers…i found that my stream was the worst sounding stream (at 128 kbps) at the world.Finnaly, the problem was on the encoder’s imput and NOT on breakaway program.
The problem was very very simple.
Volume clipping .If you check it now , you will listen it cleaner than ever.
NOW it is like the FM sound.
That sound that you will hear now is the exact sound i hear from the FM reciever i ve got,
No tilt problems, no overmodulation,
everything was fine ON FM ..air!
the problem was ONLY at the stream
Check it now for MORE than 10 minutes to be sure ( 4 at 10 songs are bad recordings becuse of oldies..)
Breakaway makes the best re-mastering i ve ever seen NOW with my configuration.check
mms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm…it’s loudest and acceptable clear enough . ( THIS is finnaly my FM SOUND)
camcloneMemberOk Ok,
I hear the distortions , i hear the bad coluring of high frequencies.
But this thing doesn’t sound like that ON FM broadcast.
I will make a seperate proccecing for FM and for Streaming.
Thank’s everyone.
camcloneMemberit’s 5:19 gmt+2 afternoon.
I think i made it!!
Softest , sweetest and loudeeeeest than ever!
pseudo-dynamics = ok
clear saxophones = okeven at songs with low bitrate and high density overdrive recordings it sounds clear ,
breakaway is something like re-mastering and clearing somethimes bad recorded songs! ,
amaaazing software.
now my stream is online and it’s exactly the same as on FM broadcast …without pilot and rds…and..tits..
..oupss..sorry, tilts…i mean.. ( funny guy,, ha…_!)
check for 10 minutes or more to be sure for ..bad recorded sogs.
mms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fmcamcloneMemberyou are right ..for one more time. 🙁
camcloneMemberFM FM FM FM…..broadcast.
that’s the difference from the others. ( except some ..)I will make the sound softer at Monday , now i m changing a server.
My stream will be offline for some hours.
( that’s why it stops after 5 seconds..)Thanks everyone,
Leif, you are the most tweaked brain in the programming world 🙂)))
camcloneMemberMORE than 42000 unique IP addresses on the Windows Media Servies machine per day. that’s right 🙂
I am broadcasting now at 128 kbps WMA 9.2
time : 15:36 gmt+2 saturtday
i changed the bass shape becuse of zooming of distortion of bad recordings…
i changed also the overdrives. , i ve got clearer deeper bass and highs 🙂Monday will be a very very very hard test day for me.. 🙁
bandwidth..cpu…who knows..
I will disable fast buffering start (on WMS) definately..becuse of bandwidth spikes!!thanks a lot everyone.
i want loudness and i made it ..at FM .
We are broadcasting at 71 KHz and we are by far the loudest ..thank’s to Leif!!!camcloneMemberAfter hours and hours…
i think i made the windows media codec to work correctly.windows media codec 9.2 is buggy.
in order to have high frequencies 100% you have to be at least at 128 kbps 44 stereo, OR 32 kbps 32 stereo(more compressed but with high frequencies!!!)
so, i switched to 128 and it’s time to take 10 GBps bandwidth servers.
to bad for my money..🙁so, please , hear it now,
it is 128 kbps , 44100KHz , stereo,
Breakaway latest version with , bass efx, tornado, surround and high density overdrive for FM loudness with 75 preemfasis …deemfasized for streaming..so, make a last try,
it;s time to go to bed 🙁((( i know i know..i m funnyy…
give a try :
mms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fmcamcloneMemberi think there’s a bug on simplecast’s WM9 codecs/encoders .
after some hours the last band ( the highest frequencies ..simple..stop existing)lol , maiby it’s time for 128 kbps… , it’s time for money..money money.
camcloneMemberThanks Leif
now my sound colour is ok. BUT , something is wrong with the WM9 codec.
the final band 19.2K of the codec doesn’t work!! ,
windows media codecs sucks!i ll fix this too…
camcloneMemberyes it is,
if you are on 3 main greek portal websites, it is.we are one of the biggest radio stations in coverege here in the greek islands. (greece)
and the 2nd in poppularity.
i fixed it!!!
the problem was NOT ONLY the volume level in the streaming server..mixer..
it was on bass, it was on limiters..
it was messed up.. 🙂
you were right.
cheap speakers = messnow it;s clearer and louder than ever! ( time 3 am , saturday – gmt+2)
( i opened the stereo, we are broadcasting again at full power ) ( 60 kwatts with the antennas) -
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