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This is a driver/OS problem. "Clever" device drivers can detect when you change ports and will re-install or adjust the port address automatically. If you have a USB memory stick, you can usually plug this into any USB port, and it will handle it. Your sound device should do the same.
Ots "remembers" the last audio device selected. It stands to reason that, if that device disappears off the radar, Ots can’t play.I have a PC loaded up with music and ready to kick in if we have dead air for whatever reason. In the past (pre BADJ) I had the playout program runnning and then simply put the PC into standby. This is because I can then send it a "Magic Packet" and Wake Up on LAN from a remote site.
Since installing Breakaway DJ, I cannot put the PC into standby without getting the usual message to send Bill Gates an error report. Can this be fixed?
Point 1: If you DON’T select Pipeline 1 in Ots, the audio will NEVER get to BADJ, and therefore NEVER be processed. That’s why you can hear it when you select the alternative – because it is going straight through Ots to your audio chain, not through Breakaway.
Point 2: There is SOMETHING stopping you from hearing BADJ output via your gigaport card. If you were hearing processed audio before via your internal soundcard, it should be a simple matter of selecting the Gigaport card (assuming it is plugged in at the time) in the settings in BADJ. Now, if you can’t hear anything when you toggle to the AG card, there must be a setting within the AG card setup that is stopping the sound from coming through.
Dave, work through this logically from end to end. Draw yourself a diagram on paper/whiteboard/whatever and mark the inputs and outputs as you go. I am happy to work with you to resolve this. Just hang in there.
It’s hard to see from the screen dumps what all the Gigaport options are for output. I would have thought there would be a Gigaport 1, Gigaport 2 etc as separate outputs. Is there any reason why you are not using SPDIF output instead? I’m guessing you are going to an analogue mixer.
If Channels 1 and 3 are lighting up, it looks like the signal is getting through BADJ and into the sound card. My M-Audio has SPDIF output, as well as four analogue channels, so it is similar to your Gigaport (except 4 channels short). In Breakaway, the output selections are Analogue out 1/2 L and Analogue out 1/2 R, SPDIF out L and SPDIF out R, so yu can see there is a separate selection for left and right per pair of outputs.
Is there anything you need to un-mute in the Gigaport software? If you click on the "ASIO Config" button in BA, it should spawn your Gigaport control panel. Maybe something there is turned all the way down?
Dave, it is very hard to read your screen dumps. I’m only using one of the two available cores, so my comments relate only to a single stereo pair. You have to get your head around the fact that you are interposing another "device" in your audio chain immediately after Ots and before your mixer/amplifier or tx hardware. Therefore, you must set Ots’ output to send to Breakaway’s input, and Breakaway’s output to your sound card’s inputs. From there on, everything remains the same.
If you go back to the settings I posted, you will see in Ots I have "1/2 Breakaway DJ ASIO" selected. This sends the output from Ots through the BADJ pipeline.
In the Breakaway I/O configuration dialogue (second screen dump), the input should be "Breakaway Pipeline 1" for the first core, "Pipeline 2" for the second core if you are using (I have "off" selected).
Now, here’s where it varies a bit, because I have an M-Audio card and you have a Gigaport, so the options will be different. "Output L1" should be set to a left channel input to the Gigaport, whose output in turn will be connected to the Left input of your mixer or whatever is next in your audio chain. Similarly, "Output R1" should be set to a Right channel input to the Gigaport, whose output in turn will be connected to the Right input of your mixer or whatever is next in your audio chain.
The only other thing to do is ensure that all the inputs and outputs have the same frequency selected. Any mixture of 48k and 4.1k will result in bo output, or problem with up- and down-converting. Start with 44.1 for Ots, your sound card and BADJ. IF your card supports it AND you have ripped your music in 48,000, you could change to 48k later.
Incidentally, I don’t have "Audio Realtime Priority" checked and still experience near zero latency, but it will depend on the grunt your PC has.
Here are my settings which work:-
in BADJ "Signal Settings"
Interface=KS
Audio Device=Breakaway Pipeline 1
Buffer Size=512
Buffer Count=3
Sample Rate=44100
Channels=2
ASIO Device=M-Audio Delta (Change this to your sound card)
Output L1=SPDIF out L
Output R1=SPDIF out R
ASIO Config=44100HzIn OtsAV the output setting is "1/2 Breakaway DJ ASIO"
It looks like you have BA set to 48000, and your audio device only supports the standard 44100. Select 44.1k in BA and you should be good.
Ots must be set to Breakaway ASIO. In BADJ, click settings, then I/O. With the USB device inserted, you should see it under the drop down box. Select it and all should be good (although I’m still a newbie at BADJ).
[quote author=”JesseG”]I don’t know how attractive it would be for Breakaway DJ because I don’t know how well it’s selling on the Windows platform. But Leif does. 8)[/quote]
Maybe access to some more presets (especially the latest), would move sales along. 😉
As the owner of a computing business, I have learned over many years that you will NEVER win the PC versus Mac arguement. It seems that, along with being prepared to spend three times more for the same functionality, Mac users have a stubborn streak that has them believe nothing else of any useable functionality exists anywhere else in the universe.
It’s like trying to get a dyed-in-the-wool Ford driver to consider buying an Oriental buzz-box.
As for the software – it’s a tool like any other program. If it works in your environment, great. I happe to use another DJ program, and have done for at least ten years. It works for me, and I have become so comfortable with it that I would never conider changing, even if Serato paid me to try their product. If I ever found that my "tool of trade" was lacking in any areas I wanted to use, I would then consider an alternative tool.
[quote author=”winsorpd”]Milky,
Could you post the settings you use for OTS and Breakaway DJ?
[/quote]I’ll take screen shots next time I have my gig box cranked up. It is most important to turn off all Ots Dynamics Processor processing, or you will be duplicating it in both programs. Click on the DP icon and unclick AGC, Compressor and Limiter buttons.
In the BADJ setup, click on the "Test" button to show the buffers and the "Jitter" count. The trick is to experiment with different settings, starting with the lowest that will actually play, to reduce this jitter to 10% or less. This will depend on your maqinboard, CPU, amount of RAM etc. If your soundcard has buffer adjustment, it is considered wise to align the buffer count in there with the BADJ buffer count.I may be wrong here, but, typically, an application must have focus for the keystrokes (or mouse clicks) to affect the program. Usually your playout software has focus, with Breakaway doing its job behind the scene.
