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Without wanting to get into an “Us and Them” discussion, there are many reasons why CPU numbers may rise, no matter which program is running. These include the actual PC configuration (processor, RAM etc), running background processes, input and output buffers, number of threads invoked by the options selected.
Having said that, I’ve seen numerous streams running out of the one PC running Breakaway, with CPU utilisation no higher than 20% peak. I don’t have a comparison figure for Stereo Tool.MilkyKeymasterWelcome, Wilhelm. Thank you for your comments and suggestions. The 4K res has been raised before as you said. I’m not sure how hard it would be to implement this, but Leif is aware of it, so it may just pop up on a later release.
Did you have any issue with Virtual Audio Cables crashing in Windows 10? It apparently happens in some iterations of the 20H2 release, and a resolution to the problem is in beta testing, so should be in the wild very soon.
MilkyKeymasterSorry to prick your Bubble of Hope, MrK, but Leif focussed on resolving the VAC compatibility issue quickly, so there are no major updates in this rushed out release. The same will be for BA1 initially.
Perhaps we should start a thread as a “wish list”?
MilkyKeymasterI have some news on this quite old subject. There is a new version of BAE in beta testing right this moment. Once we have feedback, and Leif has made any necessary changes, a new release will come out.
I can’t give you a time line yet, but wheels are turning.
MilkyKeymasterI have news!
Leif has developed an update to BAE which incorporates the new VAC release and it is in beta testing currently. He hasn’t ported the changes to BA1 yet, but progress has been made.I’ll let you know when the new release is official, and would expect BA1 to follow soon afterwards.
MilkyKeymasterIt is our policy here not to discuss nor share “illgal ways”. We support the software “out of the box”, not with hacks or anything attempting to bypass its intended use as a commercial product.
MilkyKeymasterIn a recent emal from Leif, he indicated that he was working on the changes necessary to incorporate the new VAC, and “other things”. However, he gave no delivery time commitment, so all I can say is that something is in the pipeline (bad pun).
I shall seek further clarification.
MilkyKeymasterExcellent! Thanks for the update.
MilkyKeymasterAs MrK says, you can simply launch BARemote.exe from the remote PC. It can be copied from the installation folder to any other PC without licence penalty. This is from a text file in the BA1 folder.
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BaRemote help
——————————————————————————BaRemote is an application and setup program in one.
If executed inside the Local Application Data folder (for example C:\Users\User Name\AppData\Local\),
BaRemote launches as a regular application. If executed elsewhere, it launches as an installer.When using the connection list, you can reset saved settings by holding the LEFT SHIFT key as you connect.
The following command line parameters are available:
run Force BaRemote to run as a normal application, not an installer
key=name Use an alternate data key for remembering connections.
Data is normally stored in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\BaRemote\Data
key=fm_stations will instead store the data key in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\BaRemote\Data_fm_stationsIf you want to bypass the menu and connect directly, the following parameters are also available:
host=xx hostname (or ip)
password=**** password (not necessary for localhost connections)
port=xx port number (optional, defaults to 8200 if omitted)
retry retry connection indefinitely without ever displaying retry/cancel dialog. will also reconnect after connection lost.
retry=x retry for x seconds then display retry/cancel dialog. if connection lost, will display retry/cancel dialog.touch to run in touch screen mode
touchsim to test the touch screen layout, but with a mouse
preso to run in touch screen presentation modeAspectRatio_16by=x anamorphic rendering.
For a 16:9 display using a 4:3 resolution, use AspectRatio_16by=9
For a 21:9 display using a 16:9 resolution, also use AspectRatio_16by=9vorbis Force using Vorbis audio streaming, to save bandwidth
nicam Force using NICAM (PCM) audio streaming, even if there does not
appear to be enough bandwidth. Be very careful with this one.
noaudio Force no audio streaming. This means no oscilloscope, no RTA, no FFT, and no client audio.dpi=x Force a rendering DPI (small or large fonts). Normally auto-configured from windows font-size setting.
Valid values: 96, 120, 144, 192no_taskbar_button Create window without a taskbar button
displays_only Starts up in “Displays Only” mode. Clicking on any display takes you back to normal mode.
ini_file=xxxx Specify a full path and filename to save the session gui settings
max_displays=xx Specify the maximum number of displays (for graphs/instrumentation). Default is 8.
show_logo Always show product logo (even at the expense of shortcut controls).
all_levels Show Basic/Intermediate/Expert levels simultaneously. Useful if running two copies of BaRemote,
to see which expert controls are modified under the hood when a basic control is adjusted.
Only applicable to products that have adjustment levels.no_reconnect Do not ask to reconnect, just close when connection lost
multi=xx Multiple BaRemote windows with one connection. Saves bandwidth. NOT compatible with front panel or ini_file options.
For use on the front panel of a hardware unit:
fp Front panel mode. Starts by asking for password, no exit in the menu, no client audio, and many other subtle changes.
no_lock_on_startup Starts unlocked on power-up. For secure facilities only.menu Use the menu-style user interface (arrows + knob, no touch, no mouse).
Similar to the front panel of certain products.
When combined with the ‘fp’ option, it reads the mouse-wheel and five mouse buttons as follows:
Wheel = Adjust (shuttle/rotary encoder/knob)
Left mouse button = LEFT
Middle mouse button = UP
Right mouse button = DOWN
Fifth mouse button = RIGHTIf combined with the ‘spin_message’ option:
Sixth mouse button = Enter. This is optional — Enter is not required for navigation, because RIGHT = Enter. Four arrow keys is enough to control the entire menu UI.spin_message=x For use with 4-way + push joystick control, when there is no visual indication on the front panel that the joystick is four-way — it looks like just a knob you can turn.
If the user spins the knob on the main menu or lock screen (which does not navigate, navigation is done with the arrow keys), a message is displayed directing the user to
navigate by pushing the knob the way you want to go.spinmessage=1 Default message, for 16:9 format screens
spinmessage=2 For small screens like Crystalfontz
spinmessage=3 For even smaller screensposx=x Sets the front panel window size. Example: PosX=0 PosY=8 SizeX=319 SizeY=231
posy=y
sizex=x
sizey=ywheel_adjust=x Use mouse wheel to adjust sliders (rather than change page). x=gear ratio, for example wheel_adjust=1
always_on_top=x Force window “on top” for x seconds on startup. Useful to force placement above the task bar.
file_recorders=x Lets you specify the number of client file recorders. Default is usually 3.
MilkyKeymasterDo you have BA1 running as a service? If so, can you provide a screenshot of where you are getting to?
MilkyKeymasterExcellent! Two heads are very often better than one.
I find that the “Audio Processor” button often reveals some issues as it lays out the ins, outs buffer overruns etc.
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MilkyKeymasterIt would be good if you could lay your hands on a laptop or even a desktop just to see if you can duplicate the problem. I’m sure it’s not the demands that BA1 place on a system, as there are reports of the software running on much lower powered computers. If you can do a “Brand A / Brand B” comparison, with all the rest of the configuration identical, then we can start to drill down on whether it is the PC, or something in the config that has slipped through the cracks.
I’ll look forward to what you can come up with.
MilkyKeymasterThis is the group, “I Love Broadcast Audio Processing”. I was invited, and I’m not too sure how to get a gong, but I’ll speak to the guy who invited me to see if I can invite you in turn.
MilkyKeymasterThanks for the clarification, Mark.
I’m not using fanless devices, but i7 laptops with SSDs so, although they do have a fan, I’ve never actually heard it kick in. They are probably overkill, with 16GB RAM, 2TB drives etc, but I am trying to future-proof the installation.That said, I know that Leif is a fan of the NUC and has set up quite a few in his test environment.
Does your device have any ability to use or tweak the video GPU? Mine has NVidia software which can force applications to divert the video through the dedicated GPU, and maybe this would take the load off the CPU. When you run as a service and use BA Remote to access it, of course all the video load is transferred back to the PC running the remote program, so it would suggest that there is a video bottlneck.
I run my home music studio BA1 HD core on a “boring” early model i7 running Win 7 (yeah, I know it’s not supported anymore), and even that handles all the meters without getting puffed out. I usually rin it as a service, but I will shut down the service and run it locally to get some comparisons.
MilkyKeymasterGeez, I’ve never seen CPU rates above 15% on an i7 with several simultaneous streams, so something is definitely not right. Have you tweaked all the buffer settings to optimise them? Start with the inputs and work your way through.
I’ll ponder on this one some more.
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