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I’m not sure if the first link works, I made another one
I made a quick video of it playing a song in foobar 2000, it’s on Google photo.
Also for the PC’s CPU and OS I have not seen a significant difference between any of them. I had the same latency on the old Core i3 laptop that for the i5 13400 that is 10 times more powertful. No difference either between Windows 8.1, 11 or 7 and 10 for the short time I used them, but all the PC’s have always had the same Windows configuration and the same set of software, almost like if they were cloned.
I used Breakaway Live for several years and switched to BreakawayOne like 2 years ago. Iwanted the lowest possible latency because I was using DJ CD Players and now mostly DJ Controllers and was annoyed by the delay when you press Play, it needs to be mostly instant. This was in the first time on a Core i5 3570K a Core i5 6500, a laptop Core i3 4030U and since a couple of month a Core i5 13400F, all with Windows 8.1 upgraded to Windows 11 last year. Like I said earlier for the interfaces I’ve been trough a long list with almost all consumers grade Sound Blaster Audigy SE and 2ZS that have seen the most use and that were great for the latency and an X-Fi surround 5.1 pro USB and a Behringer UAC202 USB that needed bigger buffers plus some cheap no name USB sound card based on a C-media chipset that were strangely really good for the playback latency but unusable for the line input, they clip like crazy and have way too much noise. Now I use 2 Asus Xonar DX that work great.
It begins to dropout between 150% and 250% depending on how it feels but BreakawayOne is more stable and can achieve lower latency when running like a service, some periods when running not like a service I always had the “I/O Thread” (with a percentage) flashing yellow, without actually dropping, it’s another thing that we don’t know what it means exactly and how it works. Sometimes it will flashes yellow at 12% I/O Thread and sometimes it will not flash at 25-30% I/O Thread.
I have tried to maintain the jitter in the 5-6% range but that means buffers most of the tim in the 480-1920 range, and it’s too much for me. Most of the time if it doesn’t work with the buffer at 256 ar lower I simply stop using it. If it’s for listen to the TV or background music I can use 480 but not much more because i’m annoyed by the image starting to go out of the sync with audio.
Ok I see, but what is an acceptable jitter figure ? I saw that it will tell that it’s low with 1-2 % but it will often jump to several hundreds or even thousands % without obvious dropouts. That’s why I said in the beginning that since the old versions didn’t have jitter indicators and we used to adjust the buffer size by ear maybe we were running it with like 200% jitter all the time without knowing it. It looks scary the first time you realize that your is at 250% and it still play without being completely choppy.
You’re often left on your own with theses softwares, and many questions remain unanswered with these details. I’ve noticed that the size of the buffer is irrelevant to the number of times a device is used. For example, I can use Breakaway Pipeline 1 in 3 HD cores at the same time and still need to use the same buffer in all 3 places. And yet, and this is one of the things I didn’t understand, it’s written that you must not use the same device in several places at the same time. I’ve always done this, but often the output of an audio interface will work in only 2 places at the same time, in Kernel Streaming. I always try to keep the jitter below 100% and normally I don’t get any glitches, but sometimes it can vary a lot for no apparent reason.
Ok, what I have found so far in experimenting with maybe 6 or 7 sound cards is that Wave input and output can’t never have smaller buffers than Kernel streaming, at best it will works the same and begins to becomes glitchy at the same buffer size. Also the automtamic buffer selection thing almost always come up with a pretty big buffer like I just tried with the Pipeline and the result is 960 with 8% jitter and Safe alternative 1024, I just tried again the automatic thing and it’s now 480, Alternative: Safe 1024, Low latency 240, but I run it since last year at 160 with 50-60% jitter and I never have drop outs, clicks, pop, etc. That’s why I asked because the difference is huge between 160 and 1024, it quickly comes to a point that the audio is not anymore in sync with the video when you’re listening TV programs or movies.
The sound cards I tried also give me results in this range, and strangely the one that is stable at the smaller buffer size is one of those cheap no name usb sound card based on the C-Media chipset CM6206, you can find them for 20$ everywhere on shopping sites, they work with a buffer of only 96, and on top of that and what I don’t understand is that the EQ and effects things that come with the driver continue to work like they were implemented in hardware, but they are not, so I don’t how they managed to tweak their drivers to achieve that. All the others the effects and DSP are bypassed like it’s supposed to be when using Kernel streaming and the Behringer UCA202 also has it’s volume control bypassed. I tested all this on 4 computers with Windows 8.1, 10 and 11, none of them are really dedicated exclusively for this task, it’s mostly for local listening.
Hi,
I’m running Windows 7 32 bits and the plugin works well, but i also use Sound Forge 9 and i wonder how i can record what is currently playing like an mp3 or anything internally. The line in input always works, you can see with the little green VU in recording sound properties but the line 1 Breakaway pipeline sometimes works (very rare) but most of the time it doesn’t works. And it’s weird because it doesn’t seem to have anthing else for recording the audio that is playing throught the sound card, there is 3 mic input, line in and SPDIF but that’s it.
I don’t know if it’s related to Breakaway or Windows 7 as i have not try it before the plugin was installed. It works better in Windows XP as it does not modify the recording portion of the sound card properties. It’s a Realtek onboard device.
Thanks
